NCEES News Release - August 27, 2003

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The NCEES examiners are bias to people without a degree in civil engineering. I have been surveying for almost 18 years and work people who have their RLS PLS license all the time. Almost all of them say they would not have passed the exam if not for the HP48. I now have to go to school to learn the things that I can already do just to get a license to better myself for my family. I am 36 years old and this is taking a lot of time from my wife & kids, thanks NCEES.

In reply to PHIL MOULD:
Is an IRAQUI ABACUS available for the Surveyor and Mapper Exam in April? I think I have worked out a sliding parallel line approach for an area problem. HP 48´s up are the backbone of all the latest building improvements in the last ten years. In the Army you learned how to disassemble the rifle first slowly, then fast and then blindfolded, but it was still at least the same rifle!!!! Guard your 48´s they may be OUTLAWED soon.

Anonymous
11/17/2006 2:16:37 AM - US  | reply

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What a bunch of whining - cheating is rampant on tests these days. You can buy a solution manual to any text these days on Ebay. It costs NCEES nothing to implement this ban and saves them their monopoly on giving the test. I sit next to people all day long with their graphing calculators and I am just to stupid to figure out how to use them so I just plug in the old fashioned way, take a second to reason that the answer is the correct one and 9 times out of 10 have the answer (correct) before them. Sure it hurts me on the exam that I actually have to KNOW the formulas instead of (cheating?) programming them into my calculator but I can pick up any calculator and do any computation. Me thinks the protests are more about inabilities to perform...
No cheating here
5/2/2005 10:28:07 AM - US  | reply

Is an IRAQUI ABACUS available for the Surveyor and
Mapper Exam in April? I think I have worked out a sliding parallel line approach for an area problem.
HP 48´s up are the backbone of all the latest
building improvements in the last ten years. In the Army you learned how to disassemble the rifle first slowly, then fast and then blindfolded, but
it was still at least the same rifle!!!! Guard your 48´s they may be OUTLAWED soon.
PHIL MOULD
4/4/2004 2:07:45 AM - US  | reply

It is quite unfair to ban a number of calculators that were permitted earlier. Especially for Electrical Engg pe exams, many will fail with this new ban. Please reconsider for revoking the ban
Prof krish
Prof. Krishnamurthy A U
4/1/2004 9:28:52 PM - US  | reply

WHERE CAN I GET A HP 33S.
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JOHN W. BUGLER
3/26/2004 12:33:31 PM - US  | reply

I believe that it is very unfair that many surveyors are licenced knowing they took the exam with an HP48 or HP41..All of us looking to set for the exam have used these calculators in our everyday work..I can´t believe that there is truely enough time to be unethical when there is valuable time needed to focus on the exam
Rick K.....
3/13/2004 10:08:20 AM - US  | reply

I am throughly disgussed at this calculator ban. I would feel less far less disgruntled if anyone who has taken and passed a NCEES exam since these calculators came onto the market were required to retest. I´ll bet not 10% of those who passed thier exams in the last 10 years could have done so without the use of an HP48. This is outragous. It is a proctered exam to keep this very type of cheating from happening. Who´s not doing their job here? The 99.9% of candidates who are ethically using their preferred tool of choice, or NCEES who has apparently had thier eyes covered for the last 15 years. It´s like banning vehicles because of a fender bender. This calculator issue has much less to do with candidates honor than the fact that NCEES and Professionals who have already gotten thier liscense´s have found a way to discourage competetion from future generations. What professional Engineer or Surveyor is ever going to do the kinds of things on these exams without a computer, much less a decent calculator. I am in utter disbelief at this policy. I´ve been working with a HP48GX since my junior year in high school in hopes of taking my PLS test. Now I have to start over programming elementary curve equations and area calculation equations into a grade school calculator so the NCEES proctors don´t have to get out of thier seats and look around at what people are doing. Nice. I´ve got to hand it to you people. If you could hear this "Grand Proclamation" from our side of the world you would know what discrimination is. Your hurdles are bordering on harassment.
Severely Disgruntled,
Jeff Pearson
Jeff Pearson
2/14/2004 11:35:33 AM - US  | reply

do you know if TI-82 is allowed for the April 04 FE exam?
Jav
1/10/2004 12:17:14 AM - US  | reply